trees or front neck rake

heavyhitters

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Not sure I understand first I see u need trees and a neck to make the 26 fit now I see just trees and fork tubes what's the diff ? Is it just the angle of where the tire sits or does the ride change
 

vrog

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When you cut the stock neck off and weld on a piece like the HHI the neck is actually stretched 2" and 2" taller. Cut it, you will be happy!
 

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I waa under the impression that if you go 26", you "have" to cut the neck! With 23" you can do the triple tree only.
 

Chad263

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I had a 23 with 9 degree tricky trees and man it didnt ride that great. I did my 26 cut my frame and did trees and it rides better than a stock bike. Paul at Native Baggers has trees were you dont have to cut the frame. He rode it himself and said it rode great and had it up to 100 several times. If he says it works it must work Ive never seen paul sell anything that is crap or doesnt function
 

Krazyk744

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I had a 23 with 9 degree tricky trees and man it didnt ride that great. I did my 26 cut my frame and did trees and it rides better than a stock bike. Paul at Native Baggers has trees were you dont have to cut the frame. He rode it himself and said it rode great and had it up to 100 several times. If he says it works it must work Ive never seen paul sell anything that is crap or doesnt function
I ordered these trees that chad is talking about to do a 26 and also spoke with paul. I figured I would try them myself first before I cut my frame!
 

Sonic69

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In my opinion you need to cut the frame for anything bigger than a 21. I tried just trees and rode 5 miles before I tore it back apart and cut the neck off.
 

heavyhitters

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Yeah thats what I was thinking cutting the neck has to do somthing other then just trees im not at all KNOCKING the guys trees for the 26 I just wounder why some guys cut and some just do trees
 
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Buggy

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I have the extended warranty so I would be leary of cutting the frame. But just trees looks funny IMO. I have seen the trike trees with a 23 and that didn't look bad though.
 

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I believe the warranty will still be good for the parts of the bike that have not been modified.
 

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I have done it both ways, I cut my electraglide back in 08 raked it 10 degrees with the stock trees and 21. That was when Baggers were just getting chopped. I have 2 done with just trees now with a 23. 1 streetglide &I had a road glide. The road glide model has a wobble problem from the factory, they have had a recall since 09. They don't tighten the top bearing nut under the top tree plate enough. I check every bike I do front end work on and about all of them are loose, some worse than others but most are loose. The biggest thing IMO the trees help with the most is the top heaviness the wheel causes when it raises up the front of the bike., but a 21 does it also to an extent. I just sold my roadglide with a 23 & trees only, i also lowered the front end 1" and it handled and was great. the streetglide i did has a 23 with only trees, but i did not lower it just for clearance issues with the fender, it rides great also. I am going to a electraglide and will cut the neck and use trees to go to the 26. I personally think the alignment and the setup is the critical deal of using just a tree with the 23, but the 26 will make it too top heavy and make the steering super sensative without cutting the neck and trees combo. thats my opinion
 
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CamtechCustom

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Ok don't blast me after this I'm just stating my opinion based on actual experience but still an opinion. Personally the only thing that doesn't need to be cut is a 21. Yes there are trees that can be bought but to install 23 with out cutting but it won't be from me. I will not sell the trees alone. You can not get the proper ride height and trail numbers with cutting the neck. Yes it's more expensive but when you get head shake at 100 or even at 50 under decel the last thing on ur mind will be how much u saved. These are custom bikes. You can't cut corners. Done correctly on a fixture like we do it there is not a concern performance and ride is as good or better when cut correctly. We offer a package drive it in drive it out. Includes: taking the front of the bike apart cutting it and welding it in the fixture. Body working the frame, painting it black again reassemble with the trees and neck installed test ridden and out the door all parts and labor for 2800.00. Remember the guys trying to sell just trees most likely just sell parts anyway versus building bikes.
 

ramnj

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...We offer a package drive it in drive it out. Includes: taking the front of the bike apart cutting it and welding it in the fixture. Body working the frame, painting it black again reassemble with the trees and neck installed test ridden and out the door all parts and labor for 2800.00. Remember the guys trying to sell just trees most likely just sell parts anyway versus building bikes.
This is great info!
 

Beene's Baggers

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I know trees only is not the recommended way to do it, the head wobble at 50 is due to the top bearing nut. you can check about every road glide, let off the gas about 47 and it will throw u in the ditch by 40 mph 8 out of 10 do that with stock trees, ask harley they have had a recall since 09 about it, if you can get your local shop to use some sense. i check all the bike i work on even if its just painting an inner fairing and 8 out of 10 are loose. I agree I wont sell just the trees out the door to a stranger either, but i do build my bikes. fabricate fenders, stretch tanks, i can rake them also, and do my own painting. There is a lot more to this than people understand, just bolting on the trees is not ok unless you address the other problems to begin with.
 
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