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I'm wondering if any of the painters on this forum have ever used techniques to get this effect. I really like this bike and have been thinking about painting my Road Glide in a similar style but in colors that would compliment my red wheels. I would want primarily black and red, but am thinking other colors like grey could be incorporated to give it the petina.

Just curious how expensive a job like this would be and if the technique is common. This bike was done by Southeast Custom Cycles a couple of years ago. I pulled the pic off HDF then.

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Hot bike baggers had this in an issue awhile back,somethin about painting,sanding,painting sanding ,and water mists too. But I like the look. IMO it need black spokes and white walls instead of billet. Its on hogpros website too.
 

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Chainsaw did it a little while ago but repainted it black. Personally I think it looked awesome, and it was black and red.

Go for it bro, I am sure Chainsaw will chime on and give you some tips.

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Chainsaw did it a little while ago but repainted it black. Personally I think it looked awesome, and it was black and red.

Go for it bro, I am sure Chainsaw will chime on and give you some tips.

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If he doesn't see this in the next couple of days, I will PM him. Would like to see how it looked.

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I really really wanted to have it come out okay,.. but it just didn't come out in real life like I had in my head






On top of that, it would of had a coat of flat clear to even it all out, and look more like this test piece I painted first


I love painting rusted up, gnarly looking paint jobs,.. but my bike looks so damn good just all flat black I had to change it back. I thought about a steel looking job with rusted metal,.. but since out baggers are almost all plastic I thought it would just look silly painted that way.
 
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IDK Chainsaw, looks pretty good to me. Maybe a little too symmetrical on the tank and fairing, but the AC cover and the fairing support bracket look great. A 3rd color might have really helped set it off too. Don't know. This is feeling more and more like it will be difficult to execute a vision.

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IDK Chainsaw, looks pretty good to me. Maybe a little too symmetrical on the tank and fairing, but the AC cover and the fairing support bracket look great. A 3rd color might have really helped set it off too. Don't know. This is feeling more and more like it will be difficult to execute a vision.

Zach
I first tried sanding off just a little black to leave a tiny bit of red showing through. Turned out looking like the 1960's batmobile with a shitty pinstripe job. So I sanded more off, and probably got carried away with it to where I thought it looked more like urban camo. A 3rd color would be cool, but I was only going to use red and black. Its almost like painting a portrait, you don't know you fk'ed it up till you went to far :)
Maybe next winter I will do it all over again if I don't think of something else in the mean time.

Oh, and if you do decide to do this,. do EVERYTHING! Thats another reason why I changed my mind, because to make the effect work, the inner fairing, bars, everything needed to be done to make it all flow together. I had no intention of doing my inner fairing, so that helped with my decision to go back to black.
 

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Actually that is part of the reason I think this style of paint job would work on my bike. The inner fairing is pretty faded and kind of looks like it's been sitting out. The same with the powder coating. It was never that great of a job to begin with and it's starting to show its' age. I figured if I could get a paint job that looks like someone drug it out of a barn for the first time in 20 years that would be pretty cool. Might just have to get a hold of SE Customs and find out who did that for them. I'm sure it's a $5 G job though. I'm not dropping that kind of coin on this bike. It's just a rider.

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Here is what I tried before, but in spray bomb testing, not breaking out the gun and having to clean it... There are 4 layers of color, not just 2. If the final result is red/black, you may have to add another layer or 2 for full effect.
Layer 1 would be brown (raw or rusted metal)
Layer 2 would be grey (primer)
Layer 3 would be red (like original color of vehicle)
Layer 4 would be black (like you spray canned over the original paint)

The idea would be to only scuff off enough to reveal the red... but if it did go further, it would cut through natural next layers in real painting... Then you would have to be tricky with an airbrush/toothbrush/anything else used to create the effect of rust drips on edges, etc... I did this to an old 1 gallon laquer thinner can as an experiment. For the life of me, I cant find it to grab some pics...

Chainsaw, I think yours looks kool, and others are right, the parts are spot on, it is the gas tank that looks off, becuase it is sanded to linear. Maybe if there was a change in direction or something. It is tough, since there arent any real body lines to cut through on the tank. I think a paint scheme like this is badass, there are plenty of guys out there doing this in the RatRod world. A nice final effect would be to not go smooth on the matt clear... purposely spray some orange peel, dry spots, etc... adds to the effect.

Just one man trying to visualize it...
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Found this quick pic of what I mean. they have several layers... green on top. They also went back with a brush and some dark dark brown and made pitting... now that is taking it to another level. Not much of the harley is metal, but the fenders and tank would have this kind of petina to it... not the fiberglass like the sample bike at the top of the thread... Give me your bike with no repercussions and I will experiment!
 

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Here is what I tried before, but in spray bomb testing, not breaking out the gun and having to clean it... There are 4 layers of color, not just 2. If the final result is red/black, you may have to add another layer or 2 for full effect.
Layer 1 would be brown (raw or rusted metal)
Layer 2 would be grey (primer)
Layer 3 would be red (like original color of vehicle)
Layer 4 would be black (like you spray canned over the original paint)

The idea would be to only scuff off enough to reveal the red... but if it did go further, it would cut through natural next layers in real painting... Then you would have to be tricky with an airbrush/toothbrush/anything else used to create the effect of rust drips on edges, etc... I did this to an old 1 gallon laquer thinner can as an experiment. For the life of me, I cant find it to grab some pics...

Chainsaw, I think yours looks kool, and others are right, the parts are spot on, it is the gas tank that looks off, becuase it is sanded to linear. Maybe if there was a change in direction or something. It is tough, since there arent any real body lines to cut through on the tank. I think a paint scheme like this is badass, there are plenty of guys out there doing this in the RatRod world. A nice final effect would be to not go smooth on the matt clear... purposely spray some orange peel, dry spots, etc... adds to the effect.

Just one man trying to visualize it...
Benji
This is more of the effect your talking about. This is all paint (except for the stickers on top), but I did it without any sanding and painted from the base coat out with airbrush and paint brushes and a few other tricks.
 

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This is more of the effect your talking about. This is all paint (except for the stickers on top), but I did it without any sanding and painted from the base coat out with airbrush and paint brushes and a few other tricks.
That is crazy! I would have thought for sure that was the real deal!!!
 

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Here is what I tried before, but in spray bomb testing, not breaking out the gun and having to clean it... There are 4 layers of color, not just 2. If the final result is red/black, you may have to add another layer or 2 for full effect.
Layer 1 would be brown (raw or rusted metal)
Layer 2 would be grey (primer)
Layer 3 would be red (like original color of vehicle)
Layer 4 would be black (like you spray canned over the original paint)

The idea would be to only scuff off enough to reveal the red... but if it did go further, it would cut through natural next layers in real painting... Then you would have to be tricky with an airbrush/toothbrush/anything else used to create the effect of rust drips on edges, etc... I did this to an old 1 gallon laquer thinner can as an experiment. For the life of me, I cant find it to grab some pics...

Chainsaw, I think yours looks kool, and others are right, the parts are spot on, it is the gas tank that looks off, becuase it is sanded to linear. Maybe if there was a change in direction or something. It is tough, since there arent any real body lines to cut through on the tank. I think a paint scheme like this is badass, there are plenty of guys out there doing this in the RatRod world. A nice final effect would be to not go smooth on the matt clear... purposely spray some orange peel, dry spots, etc... adds to the effect.

Just one man trying to visualize it...
Benji
That makes a lot of sense. I think that first bike I posted has a ton of airbrushing on it. I sent them an e-mail about it. I'll post anything they send back to me.

That tool box looks great Chainsaw.

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That is crazy! I would have thought for sure that was the real deal!!!
Its my pinstripe box, and everyone asks if Im a painter and a pinstriper why do I carry around and old rusted up box. They don't believe its paint till I open it up and show them the inside looks brand new.
 

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This was my practice pieces when I was working out the kinks of a rust paint job. Both of these are all painted on cheap wood. The one on the left is all wood that I made to look like a riveted piece of steel. Plans were to add more paint on top then cut back to look like the rust was coming through in areas,.. just haven't gotten around to doing it. Might be a good project today come to think of it. :)
 
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This is more of the effect your talking about. This is all paint (except for the stickers on top), but I did it without any sanding and painted from the base coat out with airbrush and paint brushes and a few other tricks.
That is badass! But u may need to show us an open tool box... cause that is to real!!!
 

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