My Dyna Bagger build 23" at the front

streetboy80

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Hey everybody and a big cold CERVEZA from Spain! :-D

Well I have started my first Bagger project. Probably most of the people would say Dyna Bagger??? B**ch pleaaaaseee!!! Well, I thought that might be interesting. When I saw the bagger Build from AZZKIKIR Custom Cycles it took me 5 min after I decided to do the same thing.
My dyna has a 23" + 18". At the back I have a Arnott Air ride system (deflated 9,75") which is really low at the back. I will start this week to investigate how to install an Air ride System for the front. It's a bit tricky coz

1. I have burly springs in the front
2. the height that you can see on the picture should be the maximum height once the system is liffted.

So everybody know that the lowering kit from Burly consist in a Spring+preload Spring+Spacer. To substitute only the preload spring+spacer....that might be a very very short air cylinder which I haven't found yet.
on the pictures you can see just only the half of the exhaust system (V&H 2-1 HiPro). I thought it looks very ugly when you see the front that high and the exhaust system in the back is "falling down" that's why I have bought already the 2-2 Big radius from V&H so it might be more that aggressive look.
But well,anyways. Pictures says more than 1000 words...I'll keep u update..if u'r interested :)

saludos,
Tommy

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pd still waiting to get mounted is a road glide fairing, wraped front fender...to be continued?
 

streetboy80

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Yeah! There are Tommy&Sons! But only the bags, the rear fender was from another guy (can't remeber right now the name) and the lids I made myself with a fiberglass mould from the bags of my neighbours Electra bags ;-). I thought first to make a mould of the bags aswell but then I tought..damn it chicken! Naaa...I'm gonna buy them :)
BTW the quality of the Tommy&Sons are veeeeeery good! No, I'm not working for them or sometin' else. Very nice quality and a great contact.
Well for the fitting I had to cut off a part from the inside (coz of the shocks) of the bag just to have nice fit without a big gap between the struts and the bags. I wished there were a little bit longer, or better said deeper so that in the parking position there are justa few inches above the ground ;-) but well, we'll see. Coz I took the picture with the bike on the jiffy stand and for sure on the left side it would be very low and bad-ass ;-) . nevertheless I hope I'll get some time to lower the front end this week. I think with just pulling the fork tubes further in to the tripple clamp would be enough to see how the bike will look like by the end. I just can't find here in spain/germany which brand of air cynlinders produces them with the air inlet on the piston side instead on the lateral.

Thanx for your feedback guys :) When I start with my front air system for the 49mm forks I'll post some pictures to. Maybe it might be interesting for some Dyna owners here...if there are some dyna Owners here :-D

saludos, Tommy
 

kane

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Well for the fitting I had to cut off a part from the inside
Do you have a pic of this?
I just can't find here in spain/germany which brand of air cynlinders produces them with the air inlet on the piston side instead on the lateral.

saludos, Tommy
You can just block the side inlet and drill&tap a new inlet on the top. Or, I guess Marc will have some pistons made in 49mm if you ask him ;)
 

streetboy80

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Do you have a pic of this?

You can just block the side inlet and drill&tap a new inlet on the top. Or, I guess Marc will have some pistons made in 49mm if you ask him ;)
This afternoon I will put some pictures from the inside of the bags and the area where I had tu cut of some material.
It is really important to follow the shape of the "bagger-Fender" in order to have a nice line. So I would say that on every Dyna-Bagger-Build it is almost unique the work. Depends on the style of the fender+bags+shape +exhaust system+front fork length etc etc....

You can just block the side inlet and drill&tap a new inlet on the top. Or, I guess Marc will have some pistons made in 49mm if you ask him ;)
Yeah I was thinking the same. In order to get the right piston I bought some plastic spacer. I will drop first the fork tubes to the max. point where I would like to have the bike in "parking position....or call it BAGGER POSITION XD ...."

Then I will take out the preload spring+plastic spacer. These I will substitute with a long plastic spacers (length of preload spring compressed + plastic spacers) that would be the length of the components + the height where my Bike is level with the back suspension fully extended. I think this point might be one of the most important points at all. I made in the past some tests with splipping the fork tubes futher into the triple clamp just in order to find the best ride height in combination of the height of the back air ride suspension. The first test I made I saw already that the front was lower than the back but I thought that with my weight (200lb) it would lowers itself a little bit and the Bike would be straight. result was that the ride was really rough and I also had some vibration in the steering and that was completely awful. I pulled it back to the stock fork position and it was fine. That much better that 160 km/h weren't any issue for me.

What minimum diameter of the pistons I should use? Coz in the first line that should be "heavy duty" right?
Maximum diameter of the cylinder I thought that a cylinder with a external diamter of 40mm should be ok right?


sorry for that "Roman"
 

streetboy80

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ok, here's an update:

I slammed the front in order to see how it would be with the air cylinder. Looks great. But I really have to figure out what I’m gonna do with the jiffy stand. I have cut it already ( I have grinded down about 4mm of the stopper in order to win more in angle if bike is in parking position), but I think I'll have to heat the stand up and bend it a little bit more.

In the front I have the burly slammer kit. I have disassembled yesterday the fork coz I want to find out which kind of air cylinders I have to order (maximum length of cylinder, stroke etc). The fork tubes have an external diameter of 49mm which tells me that a cylinder with a bore size of 45mm should do it. The biggest problem what I see, is the assembly of the Burly Kit. It contains the long main spring, followed by a preload spring (quite soft) + the plastic spacer which you can cut to the desired length.

1st Step:
First to find out the perfect fork length I had to cut the plastic spacer so it was approx. 2" long. I pulled everything back and pumped the rear air suspension up and made my riding test...everything was fine and really works fine (ok, it’s much harder than the stock set up..hehehe) ! The Bike is a tiny little bit higher at the front end. Riding is still cool and I had no issues.
2nd step:
I had to lower the front and I did this with pulling the fork tubes further in to the triple tree. I have pulled them about 2.5" further.
You can see on the pictures that the bike is almost level and it looks great. Logically you would say...
Air Cylinders: 45mm Bore Size; 2.5-3" Stroke...
Yeeeah. I thought the same! Here the thing: The preload spring + the little spacer only measure in “compressed” only 3"
I haven't seen any air cylinders with a length of 3" + stroke of 3" ???

I don’t want to ride my bike while it’s to high at the front. I have tried that before and I had the feeling on a 50 mile trip that the hill that I was driving at never stops… lol it was my Bike. It was to high at the front! hahahah

1. Idea: Maybe cutting 1” off the spring in order to have the possibility to stick an 4" Air Cylinder with a 3" Stroke?

2. Idea: finish the build, put the Bike in a Display Cabinet and always have a picture of it in the cell-phone---- XD...

Hahahaha…Hopefully you have some great ideas for me…thx

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